End of Christianity in the Cradle of Christendom?: A Report from Northern Iraq after ISIS
Fmr. Cong Frank Wolf and David Eubank
August 16, 2017
About the speaker
David Eubank, former U.S. Army Ranger and Special Forces officer and founder of the Free Burma Rangers, will discuss his time spent on the front lines of the battle against ISIS in Iraqi Kurdistan, Syria, and Mosul, Iraq, and will urge the Trump administration to continue help in that region along the following lines.
Robert R. Reilly:
We have two very distinguished speakers who are recently returned from northern Iraq to report on what they have seen there and they have slides on what they have seen and the first speaker is well known to all of you Congressman Frank Wolf who is a champion on the issue of the right to religious freedom and the right to conscience who sponsored during his terms in Congress so much legislation on this issue including the very well-known act on religious freedom he is currently occupying the Wilson chair and religious freedom at Baylor University and has joined the 21st century Wilberforce Initiative as a distinguished senior fellow I invite you to Frank’s article in at Wilberforce on their website speak freedom alert that has a title that tells you a lot the unliberated liberated in Iraq I’m sure he’ll tell us more about that during his remarks. Now our second speaker is David Eubank who’s a former US Army Ranger and Special Forces officer and the founder of the Free Burma Rangers there’s plenty of literature from Dave out on a table on his group and there is Wilberforce literature also out there I believe Frank to talk about what you are doing there now I won’t spend any further time since we do have two speakers so please join me in welcoming welcoming them as they address the topic of end of Christianity in the cradle of Christendom a report from northern Iraq after Isis.
Congressman Frank Wolf:
Please join me in welcoming Westminster for having this event and Bob’s been a big supporter when we brought Sister Diana over Bob helped with housing and so I want to thank you for all of the efforts also want to thank Randall ever it is rental here Randall Everett who is the president of the 21st century Wilberforce the group that I work for Randall was the one who got us started on this effort because when I joined he decided to take that group we went to this region in January of so I thank Randall for that effort and for the work he’s done with regard to the 21st century will before school working on this on Nigeria and many other areas as we all know that Congress the House of Senate called this genocide it was a unanimous vote there were no negative votes and shortly thereafter to his credit Secretary Kerry then called it a genocide the statement that secretary Tillerson made yesterday was very powerful there was no if or buts he called it genocide for both Christians Yezidis and others and laid out I think a very good program and so let me just thank secretary Tillerson for the his speech yesterday bringing this administration on the same page with regard to what’s taking place with Christians and Yazidis and others there’s more biblical activity that’s taken place in Iraq and any other country of the world other than Israel my first trip there was in we were in a town called Nazareth the marine said have you been to this spot and they took me to her when they said this was David’s village and I climbed a ziggurat which is years B BC Abraham’s from there Ezekiel was buried there Jacob spent years the tribes at twelve tribes of Israel were all all born for that Daniel lived in Babylon for his whole life and is buried there Ezekiel is buried their name is buried there Isis blow up Jonah’s tomb everywhere we want on this trip we a biblical activity so there’s more biblical activities there than almost any other country of the world other than is Israel in there were one and a half million Christians one and a half million million Christians today the number is two hundred two hundred fifty thousand maybe three hundred thousand and two people we spoke to said it may actually be as low as a hundred fifty thousand many or most have have left those who remain are in sometimes involuntary nomads in their own land they want to stay there looking for the West to sort of embrace them to speak out and yet they really haven’t seen the church in the West nor they have seen the Western governments really put their money if you will where the mouth is rhetoric and words mean one thing but support is something they have not seen there is a phrase as many of you experts knows in the Middle East that says first society people and then the sunny people the society people are the Jewish community in the Jewish population of Iraq was a hundred and fifty thousand in fact the finance minister of Iraq was Jewish when we were there the last time on the trip when rental we were there together I said how many Jewish people are left they said maybe ten it may be as low as four individuals and in Egypt you see the same thing and in Egypt and each of you see the same thing the Jewish community in Egypt the Jewish community in was eighty thousand well we were there a couple years ago we met with the lead of the Jewish community she said Mr. Wolf there are of us were all older elderly individuals and soon we’ll all be be gone now we understand after media had yesterday maybe the Jewish community in Israel is roughly around or in individuals we see the same thing taking place now to the Christian community in Iraq these are my own personal views. We were in Sinjar City we were in Sinjar Mountain you may have seen three years ago at this time the relief that was dropped to these ETS that were up on the mountain we went to Bart Ella we went to karakash we went to Nimrod in the Bible we saw what Isis has done to the city of Nimrod we want to earn or build we wanted to hook and then we want Marty Hudson goddess in to Mosul we visit a church in Mosul and talk to some of the people we talk to Christians we talk to you you see these Assyrian Chaldean the Catholic community we talk to the International Committee the UN we talk to our embassy we talked that Kurdistan Regional Government officials we then went in IDP camps and talk to real people about what was going on in in their life there were many many sad stories we have a report here I think there should be enough that everyone can take but one Christian woman was sold times by ISIS times it was painful to even listen I had to leave the meeting in the middle of meeting times and now she’s almost a prisoner in this one room not being able to go back to her own own own community we met within an IDP camp of Christians from Mosul who said you can’t go back remember another Christian family he was a lab tech technician his father was on the floor dying under a blanket he’s afraid to go back and yet they want to go back because their faith is very very strong but they want to see what will the West do in every meeting when we said what would we get to the number one issue that they asked for in addition to prayer was protection protection protection protection they wanted security they wanted to be able to return home they want to be able to have so many to protect them they want it security when they go back so where are we now we talked to these ETS that I won’t go into it this in the report we want into the the religious community we Bubba sure east ahead the religious leader obvious edicts we talk to the political leadership the keys we talk to everybody that we possibly could Marty got us into places other people their God is in two places not quite frankly not many other people have seen except maybe for deceive you but what are the recommendations in order to save to save Christianity and has bubs it in the cradle of Christian near cerebral one we need to quick passage of Congressman Smith and an issues bill HR so when the Senate comes back it quickly passes that that puts money that’s currently available puts it up front gives the State Department at different agencies and they ID the ability of the money to do something secondly I think this may be the most important recommendation is I believe we need fresh eyes on the target in when I went to Iraq with dan scanlon my chief of staff we were in Tikrit we were gone in a hospital we had guys guarding us and every time they went in a room they put an AK into the room and into the patients faces and finally I said this is crazy we’re not doing well here and I came back and put together a proposal for what they called the Iraq Study Group. It was the Baker Hamilton Commission. We need an Iraq Study Group number two made up of maybe people like General Petraeus and General Garner and whoever many others would know to come and look to see what do we do at this moment. And in addition to that I think you need fresh leadership I think not that I’m criticizing those that are currently there that have run this program but if you’ve been involved in something over and over and over and hasn’t worked when somebody tells you you have to change it you’re reluctant to change it and the reason you need fresh eyes sometime I’m working on something at home and I can’t quite get it right and my wife will say well what about this and she sees it differently because it’s fresh eyes we need fresh eyes on the target and we need a new leadership top leader a top leader to come in for a year or two maybe a retired military general maybe somebody like that the State Department is to work directly with say with Secretary Tillerson and the State Department to be their man to do everything he or she could do to save Christianity any Aziz their next we need to deal with a security issue and I think there are people that are smarter than I am but one of the issues that came up over and over is just put a base here they said Mr. Wolf that we have a base here a training based training police training military right here in Cairo coos right here on bar teller right here on the Nineveh Plains so to have a US or an international training base where there are Westerners there to train to train the Iraqis on human rights on religious freedom to train them on- on military to train them on policing I think that will go a long way and most of them felt that that would go a long way to number four is I think we need to hire some contractors who will go out beyond the wire they’re going to the villages and go this is not meant as criticism of the American Embassy because there was an attack on the American Embassy you may remember there was a bomb that was set off there but the American Embassy is locked down for security reasons the American Embassy only goes to the hotel to meet delegations whether American embassy only goes to the U.S. canoe and compound you need to go out beyond the wire and so I think to have contractor for half retired military we understand we’re willing to gotten have a big forest secure don’t need the bulletproof cars don’t need a chase card are willing to go in among the people to find out what is needed I remember dr. Graham Franklin Graham put it put an event on a couple months ago with persecuted people from all over the world and the number one thing they said is be with us come be with us he was us drink tea with us listen to us find out what we’re thinking and so you can’t be in an Embassy in Baghdad or a counselor in Erbil or somewhere in Washington out among the people that’s why Samaritan’s Purse the world vision and many other groups do such a good job because they’re with the people so I think we need some contractors who will go out beyond the wire and go and being with people come back and be the eyes with the recommendations as to what we do next I think it’s an opportunity to put influence to use our influence on the KRG to respect human rights and religious freedom and to do some things that they’re not not doing I’m sympathetic to the curse to a certain degree but there’s some things they’re not doing and they’re not doing very well in these areas and we have more power at this time to exer to influence them if you will to do certain things so I think we should use that that opportunity we are very appreciative of the Kurds the Kurds lost people fighting ISIS the courage that men wounded so I have great unthankful for the Kurds of what they’ve done but there’s an opportunity to make sure they respect human rights and religious freedom Christians and Yazidis next I didn’t know this very much almost all the meetings we want to people talked about the land bridge or the Iranian Crescent Iran we will go through checkpoints and it would be by Iranian a militia some paid for by the Iranian government. Iran is trying to get our land raised to go through Iran through a walk and Baghdad right now is heavily shit and go from there into Syria and we know that Hezbollah and Iran is working with the side and from there to go through a Mediterranean port that way you can bring men and supplies and weapons and equipment from Tehran into Iraq into Syria into the to the Mediterranean to Hezbollah I believe a direct threat against Israel but also a direct threat against the Western government and a direct threat against our our own government the last recommendation is that different groups you need to come together when you sit down with them sometimes they have differences of opinions there’s a barbless that too were better than one when one falls down the other can help up the Christians and Yazidis and the other religious minorities need to come together with a unified positions not on everything but on some fundamental thing then the Diaspora which is here in the United States and other other places needs to be with those who are on the ground but there needs to be a unity on some of the more fundamental issues the last thing and then I’m going to share some quick slides if they Dave can do this I am both optimistic and I am pessimistic there were a lot of people heading home I love my home I love to get to my own house they were heading home you can see the trucks I know we’re going to have any slides but the trucks on the roads with furniture piled high gone back to Cairo Koosh gone back to bartylla not too many gone back to Mosul but going back to other- other places so if we in the United States do some bold things that we bring in some new leadership if we get the new aiv director of Mark Greene who is a fine guy to begin to fund if there’s an office a special coordinator to kind of tie up to make sure the world vision is working with the right groups and severe ins person I think we can literally save Christianity in the cradle of Christendom and in the process also help the Aziz to save the Aziz to be able to live in peace if we don’t do this I believe and this is the controversial point I believe if we do not do this by the end of this year I think we will have seen the end because that every group we met with every group we met with was always thinking of going abroad they said they’re getting calls from the relatives in Australia and Canada say hey life is good come on out and with the Christian community with the Christian community education is very- very important so when school ends they’re going to leave and so now they’re looking to see what does the United States do so by being bold putting new leadership in passing Christmas Anna issues bill putting the things with regard to protection a training base and things like that I believe we can save Christianity into cradle Krishna and so the message is to to the church many of the Christians feel they feel they’ve been forgotten by the church in the West as we talk about refugees helping it is important we help those who want to stay also it’s fine to help a refugee that comes here that’s what this country does well but let us also help the refugees that want to stay so that we can save Christianity in the cradle of Christian so that they’ll be there for years and years to come I think it’s good for them I think it’s good for the West and I think it’s the right thing to do it there are many passages in the Bible where Jesus tells us over and over and over what the obligations are and I think we in the church in the West ought to be in the leadership to avoid that with a new administration I think we had that opportunity David you would just run through these purposes that’s why photography st. Mary certain characters these were Bibles have all burned that was a statute that was broken upon every place there was a religious symbol they hacked it apart they wrote out the symbols on all the church symbols every cross you’ll see they broke off even across that way that concrete they chips apart this is a direct confrontation against Christianity this is in a church in Saint Saint Mary’s you see the destruction there that day this is the thing to ensure support l out here you see the cross again simple to target they use target fractions in that church per second they use it as lineup they shot they stood way back in a courtyard and hardened to use that as targets under threat that’s where student died animal material Bob Adyar about a year ago that researchers that were sort of con men this is the ISIS banner their hymen bartylla in Iraq were Christian see this was the church we visit in Mosul this was a Muslim family there were several Muslim family that were living in that Christian Christian Church they look allowed America was here and doing what they do this is Old Testament ancient ninfa Nimrod you can go on YouTube you can see when Isis blew it up they then put it on and you can see the glowing to get it up it destroyed that was the Tree of Life and all of this was back this is an Old Testament Syrian King his second king it’s all there you’ll see the next slide we can go to the next slide this was his summer castle if you want or Spivak or history there they’re rich there wasn’t did jarred a city where all the Yazidis left and as they were coming up the mountains Chloe was all over and that was put up by somebody but almost nobody has been century this is ruins of this disease injure our city syndra city underneath all of the the homes there are tunnels of the midgets and tunnels that ISIS head but see there are city which is ABCD this is a unique family returning home this is sends your amount of beautiful but you can see maybe can cannot clothing all over most of the families are now living on top of cinder amount with very cold in winter but he live in tents and the way for a relief waiting for help this was bombing and destruction you can see right up the road they fled the city and which we wonder that thank you very much for coming they say what happens daily max date thanks red the green post wherever you’re at I’m dead you bang I’m with the Free Burma Rangers last plus years in working in Burma in the conflict area see of ethnic relief teams there at the last three years were invited into Iraq and Syria to help people under attack by ISIS so tonight mostly I want to give glory to God and thank God that changes hearts that is the best policy of all and it’s a supernatural one and that is what’s going to change the Middle East which changes us and he did two things for me that is sure he changed my heart to love the Iraqi you know who they were all the soldier Ranger Special Forces officer and I fell in love with the Iraqis that is the power of Jesus second I don’t hate I I got shot there so my best friends were killed there my translator was killed I saw many children shot in the head some people I held in my arms they were shot in my arms and I don’t hate them I don’t hate ISIS I can pray for them and that is Jesus somebody that what does mean so that’s if I can say something else tonight that’s what’s going to change it hasn’t had us change the world but I’m doing another that’s alone we bring our medics and other people from Vermont to help and I want to say that U.S. government has done a great job with your support and supporting the Iraqis are the Iraqi army itself is very brave paid a high cost and my family goes with me and you guys come on Oh hi my name is Susan I just turned and when we go on our mission trips I help my mom with her kids program and I help give food and water and when we’re in Burma I helped lead the horse and meal team hello my name is Peter Eubank and I’m years old and when I’m on mission trips it’s on family my mom started a delectable program which is an ordinate organization to help children and I hope was that. Hi my name is Andy Reid I’m years old and I’m an assistant videographer in Kurdistan Iraq in Syria and in where my house is the worst in the old payment Swiss is on because that’s the only way you can transport food and medicines we need to give the best surrounding villages thank you all for coming. I’m Karen Eubank and just thankful to be here with you all it’s so encouraging to be on the field in a place this desperate are very rich in a different kind of way and to go through the joys and trials with people there and then to come back and finally you’re not alone and you all care about this and are so interested and there’s so many amazing dedicated competent people working on behalf of them in amazing ways through our government and through the whole population in the community of churches and friends alike the kiss program that they’re talking about is just called a good life club and in a nutshell that’s been inspiring to me as well because in the beginning of our time in Burma I was faced with this group of kids a whole village of kids in a desperate situation and I thought Lord I can’t take care of all these kids I couldn’t even take care of one of them and Jesus said you’re right introduce them to me and I’ll give them abundant life and so that’s been a real mainstay for my life is to offer that introduction because I don’t know what Jesus can do people’s lives but it’s not just true for kids in Burma it’s true for my friends here as well because we all have difficulties for going through we all want something abundant so the Kids program works itself out into songs and games and skits and lots of fun things that would just give them tools for courage in their body and spirit and so we have lots of people that join with us and we’re never alone so thank you again for being with us tonight and for all you do as you leave this place tonight and then the future we we go as the family since they’ve been born and the people in Burma would say since our kids are born bring it with us and you know there’s families in every conflict area and when I first went to Kurdistan with my kids the Kurdish defense minister said hope you brought your kids your most precious thing we’ll give you our most precious thing our country and that’s been true in Sudan the Chu in Burma because we’re all in this role together everybody counts and so they generally we try to keep them out of direct fire and back where people are fleeing but where they can help but they’ve been a great blessing and I this is not really what I plan to do I hope it’s okay but once you came here honey when we were in we first got involved in Kurdistan about three years ago when we’re invited there and at that point if you’ll remember ISIS had been stopped about kilometers from reveal they were pushed up and right below Sinjar the actually had percent of Sinjar town and so my family be up on the hill and I’d be down at the front line with my medics and up in another place called by sheikah there’s a monastery marmots Matthews monastery since AD and there was a village below it and about a mile in front with ISIS you can see their flags and they’d shell and shoot and the Kurds are holding the back but the Christian monasteries up on this hill we were there also and on one Sunday we walk up the hill to the monastery and after church which is Syrian Orthodox a woman was singing this song and it was a beautiful song and so I videotaped it and my daughter learned it on a trip to Syria which is another story and it’s in Arabic but their words of this: Jesus set me free. Jesus set me free he gave his life for me. Jesus set me free and I want to Hayley to sing in Arabic because the congressman’s talking about these are some of the last persons left in the Middle East and this woman singing this and we’re are there for the Christians. We’re there for the Muslims. We’re there for everybody but if this is our family that’s there and so I would like to you to sing a song Nishida I love you too hiya our body and hara india sue sue running me yes to me now board is everything hi remedy assume i will be metal Molly’s an OB host mo I’ll follow your breathe Harley do you sue Yasu muhammad is ebony ha well. We were first with the Kurds and then when the Kurds started the counterattack against ISIS in October of last year we were with them as well and they pushed out and made a new de facto border and the referendum is going to be following up on that and I agree with the congressman this is a good time to show our support to the Kurds they have a right to their own country however they need to take the time to include everybody and Christians any of these are very much caught in the middle between the Iraqis and the Kurds right now so I think we have a good position that friends with the Kurds to thank them and support them but also encourage them to take the steps necessary not only for the freedom for the Christians and Yazidis but for good relations with the Iraqis the as we were in Kurdistan Isis was defeated by November in Kurdistan and we felt God open the door for us to help the Iraqis and like I told you my heart was changed working the Rockies starting in Mosul in November all the way till June we were with them and our job was my wife and kids to be back at the CAHSEE collection point handing out food and water are taking care of patients and myself and my team were at the front and we faced Isis a lot in that time we started the brigade I supported start with a hundred and five BMP that’s armored track vehicle with about a man crew we had eight when the battle was over and we lost almost all our tanks one of the battalions I was with at the end of this mission which was June but two months ago we had men left and that is a price the Iraqi army is paid the Americans are fighting your support but all the hard fighting is done by the Iraqis and their break and one thing that struck me the most about the Iraqis these are mostly Shia soldiers they risked their lives to save so many families who are running mostly Sunni families at the end or ISIS families and I asked them why did you give your life and some of them died saving other Sunni families they said if we don’t save them we’ll be fighting for ever in Iraq and so one thing we try to encourage our government the U.S. government to do is stay close to the Iraqi army they know the cost they have I think the right idea how to go forward while we’re there we saw ISIS killing families maybe a family or two a week inadvertently but by June of this year they began a slaughter of families and have fought walk came out from the from the ISIS especially the Chechen ISIS from Russia these are Muslims from Russia who came to join very sophisticated very good at what they’re doing antiaircraft systems antitank systems there on the first bridge in Northwest Mosul wiping out anybody who try to come but when families began to leave they sent on a fog walk which was this any family that leave even your own child killed them don’t let them fall in the hands of the Iraqis and so I want to show you a clip we were helping people see that rescue one honey you all may have seen this but this is stop pause defense alright on this street is about dead people these are all dead bodies and then we solve it and it was about one one or two little kids still alive hiding in their parents mother’s hijab a blot covering and we saw one man alive and we prayed how can we help them because this street was totally controlled by ISIS and they’d already destroyed armored vehicles and many many people and we prayed and I contacted the American sominex special forces guys as a few geo linear thank God for our military anybody doubts the courage of our military you know courage isn’t just facing bullets for a lot of us that’d be the easy thing it’s risking your reputation in your job isn’t it that’s the tough one and talking to this American generally says ok talk to the Kurds we’ve got me in the Iraqis got to do this right so the Iraqis and Americans coordinated they drop this mode runs behind recommends wall on all higher buildings and then Iraqi tanks who volunteered one of them to go out these are two volunteers that came with us and mine the guy who filmed this is a from Burma my pastor named monkey and he’s filming this whole thing I’m running out to get this girl okay so we got that girl out and something like we’re allowed to go to Brighton we got that girl out that was I believe the power of God that was the Americans dropping smoke when we needed it that was the Iraqi tank risking their life to go help and and our team helping account after that we got that girl out and we went back to kazakh collection point I called my wife and said honey I got a little kid the only one not shot but she can’t speak she’s been hiding in her dead mother she’s going to need a mom so after we’ve given her an IV and give her a lot of water we handed over the Karen I just found out this week that she’s been reunited with the only living member of her family in fact and it’s the first time I saw her smile I started on the photos that her smiling but she’s okay but the next day in the same ISIS compound but now in more in their area we were told there’s more people alive and a woman who’s been shot in the hip and compound fracture solved through the cracks outside will you rescue that girl said please rescue me there’s five of us here a lot I was like no way we cannot get inside their compound inside ISIS compound and get anybody out we’ll all die and in Iraq so I wanted to make this point really clear the first day God’s power the American smoke and the Iraqi tank I made the plan I led the mission the second day an Iraqi private named Zuhair he made the plan he led it in fact he told me when I was terrified that’s the only word I could choose I ain’t gonna go there man we’re all going to die and he said I will go by myself and die I will not leave anyone alive in there he said you’re Special Forces you guys can do anything with it man they say in a movie but I’m also I can’t do like hug food so what we prayed and one thing I loved about the Iraqis everyone I met they believed in God and so we could pray together I’m a Muslim me a Christian and say God what should we do well the Iraqi army wouldn’t let him go we prayed again in the rocky commander said okay you get eight hours off anybody wants three timing eight hours and so one lieutenant two sergeants subordinated himself to this private and so did I and four of my team we went and we’re pulling people out and ISIS is very close to us and I know this is not probably supposed to be religious talk I don’t know how else to say it but we’re inside an ISIS building you can hear them talking outside there’s of them these are Chechens with Zia antitank machine guns everything and it’s a blownup Pepsi factory so there’s a lot of noise and I thought oh god you had to kidding me but that’s when I remembered the power of prayer and I know people like y’all were praying so I said, “In Jesus name. ISIS you can’t hear us. Demons must be stopped. Satan get away. We got to do this.” I did it on the shred of faith and we went in there we rescued four people and then there was a woman right there she’s behind the truck and with for their shot people were third day she’s been shot no water three days and she looked at me and said with just her mouth bitch Finnegan noise and I thought no way if we step out there that for people trying to say they’re going to die we’re all going to die and I but then I prayed remember God to do anything and I want to say this guys can do everything anything including what needs to be done sir about U.S. policy even though people may tell us no no we can’t do this but God’s in it it can be done and so I just prayed lord help us and I prayed mr. haire and he looked up and he looked at the wiring he said we couldn’t make noise and cut the wiring down we tied it it’s a little girl she ran it out meters ISIS shooting at her because they could see her through it to this lady she tied around her wrist and awaiting her angle was I just couldn’t him and they can’t see her so it should so we’re just dragging him all these are dead bodies got a wheelchair that shot as we got her closer see things god is great thank you God and thank you you guys didn’t leave me so good honey so that was our I don’t know how you count rescues but we ended up doing seven of them and some journalist asked me you guys specialize in rescue I’d had no way man you don’t want to do a real one because you’re probably going to die and but that could have been done without the Iraqis and the Iraqi general we worked with general Mustafa the day I left was in June he said this to me he’s Muslim and first he made fun of us the first week without a hard time and he’s looking at us all the time I go with you guys you know he’d worked under Saddam Hussein he was a Sunni general and he said tell the Americans we love you please love us and I want to thank you for showing us what it means to follow Jesus you you’re willing to give your life for us Iraqis would do the same for you as we watch them do that so when I when congressman will talked about fresh eyes I believe that’s a that’s what we need we need this great eyes out there and our military has done a great job but we need fresh aggressive loving eyes I don’t know when someone who can coordinate all these activities and say we’re going to be there in the Middle East we have no choice we can run back here and hide that would be wrong one it won’t work they will come to us second what a waste of our life God’s given us so much we’re not going to leave happiness helping those people and so and we can do it it’s possible we can’t solve every problem but we can do some things and so one thing I like Colonel North told me all over North the other day today we want to cooperate not dominate but to cooperate you’ve got to be there as you said sir and so whoever these new guys are which some of you all named don’t think about could lead the effort to be one with these Iraqis and maybe in Syria we may have to do both of these another initiative you talked about was contractors and I think the issue there was many people in our government don’t have the freedom to go out and be with these people and if you’re not for those people you don’t know you’re not going to care as much you probably be more afraid once you’re with somebody your fear kind of goes away you start loving somebody I always tell my teams if you’re afraid ask God to love because you’re not going to be afraid with love you have to think of you can do heroic things out of love so if our government and my this is my real thing sir I think our president it’s got to come from the president the only way to change the policy the president United States says okay from now on you at every embassy and every military installation you will decide your own risk assessment and you will go out and meet people and if you get killed or one of your guys get to kill one I’m going to fire anybody it’s that bucks going to stop with me we’re going to engage and that’s what you need comfort otherwise the biggest fear I think is it people are breaking you’re going to die people pray to lose their jobs that’s my mic my feeling and so if that doesn’t happen then we’re not that contractors or somebody who can go out and engage in the meantime there’s people like Samaritans first there’s many NGOs that work behind the frontline or near the frontline some in the frontline they’ll be very happy I know we would have a direct line engaging with our government to help any way we could we can’t do the powerful thing to American government can do but we can help so I agree with that the hostage sabe I’m trying to follow your outline sir the hostage shall be or the militias that have stood up I think in one sense they’re like any relationship a growth in America we were overrun to be some good ones to be some bad ones we worked only with the good ones by the grace of God I always approach them like this God sent me number two I’m an American number three sorry for anything wrong we’ve done in your country we’re here at your service always became friends with them and so there’s many of these militia that could be our friends however just as if we had a militia situation in America there’d be some to be downright evil and if you had a foreign influence like Iran they wouldn’t just be evil they would have an agenda to draw and if we think we should be invested in Iraq they know they have to be and so right now it’s an unavoidable contest and I don’t think an easy one that you got to win with bullets I think you can win it would love but you can’t have love without presents and so I want to support you sir in all your suggestions and I think I would like to stop here except I except for one little story my drive one of my drivers in in the Humvee I had always up with a month long named Mohammed in April he gave his life to Jesus the next day when summer his first on the list at all there’s a lot been me Jesus people here and a month after that in May on May the the of this year the unit I was with launched an attack near Northwest Mosley and we ran into a buzzsaw he lost four BMPs right away we lost two tanks guys killed civilians start running IG starts gunning them down we try to help the civilians our guys start getting shot my Humvee got shot to pieces until it couldn’t even move lost power transmission the guy in the sheen gun hats had to come inside and my driver Muhammad said I’ll go for help I said no way man let’s get a tank in here to help us he jumped out ran through a hail of fire a real hail fire god of another one he came back meanwhile there was civilians had been shot we pulled him into our home D one little girl about nine years old shot me I her father shot twice shot again and they lifted him up he’s bleeding to death we were trying to stop the bleeding my medics are inside the Humvee Humvee can’t move where between three buildings are firing us up Mohammad drives back to the new Humvee parks on the safe side but in the meantime ISIS has moved her on that side they’re closing in for the kill and Mohammed jumps out of mine out of his new Humvee our Humvee door opens my translators hehe and steps out someone you all know like Christie met him he was shot dead not he didn’t dodge the man and shot in the stomach fell down we couldn’t transload the wounded people mohamed grab Shaheen was shot eight times it’s a new Christian a times how he lived I don’t know but did not fall down picked up she need drug him into the Humvee if there’s a word greater love has no man than this knee lay downs life that that here’s a must boy was a Muslim here’s an Iraqi hoping a Yazidi Shaheen with the Aziza and actually Shaheen hated the Iraqis and he gave his life though that day to save Iraqi family members said she he died days later in the hospital my translator in his EB guide Mohammed I called two weeks later that was at o’clock in the morning I was beginning the battle well I got to finish the story we finally got a tank down to us blast the way I just pulled our vehicle out that was in the morning those beginning in the day he just kept going on and on and on until we left in June but two weeks later I called Mohammed I said Mohammed how are you he’s in the hospital in Baghdad you said Andrey happy I said are you happy man he said Jesus in my heart and so what I found you know I prayed that would happen and I haven’t seen it happening in droves but that’s God’s business a friend of mine remind me don’t be mission focus the kingdom focus it’s God’s business but I’ve learned to love the Muslim Iraqis and I haven’t told you about Syria we did there a couple times but I think I’m going to stop right now for a question for the congressman or for myself or comments but thanks for listening when you ask a question please use the mic just go right into the number of that house know that you were talking about beginning HR nonzero parity yes yeah and it’s go sponsored by Congressman Chris Smith and New Jersey Republican and Ana su a Democrat from California work their way up to the top of our government our Congress be here when we stop it well both David I went up today and briefed staff up on the hill as you know most members are back in their districts now very much is it true what I’ll even be seen on YouTube with the Christian hierarchy of various sects may be encouraging their plot their respective plus Orthodox accounting or whatever to leave that believe firmly relatives day no I don’t think that’s true one priests that we met with when the first herb said help us to stay but if you’re not going to help us a stay then help us the leave don’t leave us in this but though they desperately Bishop Wordie and all the priests we met with it or not they want their people to stay they love their country it is a beautiful country the history so know that but the comment was which I thought was very profound help us to stay but if you’re not going to help us this day and that help us to leave so you know exactly the addresses home for Jews in many countries in a month more powder in there with multicountry why can’t we for example have a place like Lebanon you know a place where as a table for Christians thumping hey well the Christians in Iraq love their country they they they want to stay and so they don’t be somehow moved to Lebanon as a way of getting out of danger but they want to stay they love their country here so will the home that they are highly educated a number of adopters the one gentleman we was in a tent he was a PhD in Mosul at the university the only one in another tent was a with a lab technician in the hospital Mosul but they want to say they love their country the same way that if were from you know the Shenandoah Valley you love the Shenandoah Valley so they want to stay but their frustration is they have not seen the West really do what it said it can do to help them stay but they they love their country and they want to stay to make very much but he had thoughts on how the makeup the church to the needs of restriction and up in the birdwatcher prayer because the only has been a lot of the spiritual impulse how to human approach the second is I would say people Boldin things Jesus humbled and made achievement and go for it there is nowhere in the Bible I can read is that be based on that this is line I can’t cross it it’s always go go forth to all the nations people and so God is blood are going to be so much and it’s I believe will keep letting it we obey him and keep going and so I finances churches at top of the because it does well I think there is a way because we have a model within the late nineteen ninetyseven ninetyeight Chuck Colson and hungry to be a chuppah live today in charcoal said Colonel McCurry rather seventeen dear was the religion of matter and peace initiation a veto they all came together and it was a group that met to deal issues Sudan many churches in those times in a month ago having a religious freedom Sunday they would bring me visiting from China from Sudan and the church was alive on fire if you recall for some reason it dissipated so I think there is a way there are so many packages in the model how we do Church whatever do just a with your brother in Christ don’t you to prison as you look forward read about it but I really eat me and so we don’t have a pulses we don’t have hard liquor visit world very good car both been very good also borders in very good way if every Church had a Sunday where they prayed with a persecuted church and brought people from China Rania people from Sudan crying people from Barack and exactly adopt a churches and adopt a Christian community and family in these places I’m awake of the church lasted prayer but it is one time there were such a powerful moment that young girl is we even build that took home using brick one exploring materials using brown rice embassy it all dissipated in in the main in prophecy I think it can be Luci front cannot be cut we appreciate that question my wife I wore engineering part three half years ago and we were sitting at a table with a Patrick from Sirius and he said they’re killing our men they’re raising their women to learning our churches and in church to the west of the care why I spent the church in Texas rose we passionately loved the church and red shirt God moved in our heart that we need to do something what happened he wake up the church in America and that that’s the motivation from the alidium start moving force was how do we work with the Church of America and let me give you a resource that the Baptist churches in Texas asked us provided resources from them so the weekend of November rd th and they’re trying to get all the churches busy governor churches other churches the inside standing with the persecuted church on that Sunday and so that unites to this day are going to be witness in Texas but we created a website that will be live next week live in the Apple which the popular can be ready next with you to speak free in Texas it has nothing to do in geographies that they’re the ones that was a reason that they’re the ones who asked us to is and on speak great in Texas not award we have sampled assortments and so you can think if one of these sermons and anglicize them and a cath lab and whatever busy for several sermons we had illustrations people that we’ve met there this person Church personal areas and most of them are Christians but we have some that are Muslims they’re by some religious persecution we have videos that can be using their Sunday School lessons that can be used we have prayer guides we have a program for children children’s crowd so they know how to pray for teachers and then we have some very specific things that your church can do we even have a little thing called Bill freedom shelter where have you met at the aspects to give an example of a shelter that they live in the weekend so we get exact set of a shelter in Nigeria and so a church can build this little shelter they’re doing at the moment how students often build and then we can be populated with storyboarding on the inside and as the children go through all the thermal ones go through these and have some really visualize what whole families are living in a lot of times again so that’s a resource and we hope that you know people oh gosh where they live one of the nomination is but you give a few and your thoughts on cooperation with the Greek Orthodox the Lebanese one the facts the Ukrainian deserves the Russians your products and says a number of us is there their powerful enlarge all the coming because we have a you know Whitman in fact is happening I don’t know the answer to that all eyes are on a hand mic over to you sir I think it’s a great idea but during events and they well there are what the Orthodox Church is after with your joining some grease and some we did but I think everyone really thought oh and you love Franklin Graham did a very powerful program in a July he was have to make well he brought in Greek worth of every denomination every denomination Catholic Protestant Orthodox and they all came to Morrison’s in your work four to five hundred people the first summit they’ve ever had and they all told oldest or so the woods beginning of the cooperation in Franklin Graham house I assume they’re going to do another ones that they was all there from Russia’s and patriarch was any right there the patriarch me there from Russia Cardinal Wuerl with air Cardinal Wuerl spoke he Russell Moore was there from some of us everyone was there and was in July this year so a lot is being Franklin Graham pulled their food together didn’t get very much dressed but they were all all there they took the whole Philadelphia that’s a minute big five to seven other people from countries around the world what means in Vegas comment the Westminster Institute because warehouse filled with partly say which is an organization that helps persecuted Christians and it’s also an revealed in some of these places brought together a group of bishops and ministers from the Middle East particularly in Iraq and Syria to to work on the kind of cooperation we’re talking about at the biggest problem they faced loose if you just touched upon in Franklin Graham’s gathering that they didn’t get much publicity and one of the messages to these bishops and others was to arrange amongst yourselves to raise the profile of what you’re going through so that it does get that kind of publicity and attention that we call forth a larger response from Europe okay no I think you have to do that I was disappointed over here Franklin Graham and yet at the hospital I saw one little thing with the hospital it was the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen they they animal frankly grandmas mattress much to be talked a lot a lot about you know you want to do something and not pay credit for but they have different programs different they’re colored tapes for different injuries and one is a black tape if somebody has done no one dies alone little children were dying they stay with them they comb their hair they pray listen they rub their arms so when they’re dead has our way there what what what summers purse is doing in that hospital and I don’t think anybody from our government has been out of them it is a growth and you know there are no vision their Christian men and women and nurses they’re volunteers all America they’re treating everyone’s being treated as a Muslim and yet for some reason some paper it didn’t even covered it is probably one of those impressive stories coming out of the region but you know that’s why they call the Germans have everything a big push in culture is downstream to the political process and I think you got to get this in current and a politicians got to begin to under understand that your church’s character deepen but why did Franklin Graham group get a every good leader and what friend McGrath is doing Google the hospital that he has just house it is a rough neighborhood and they’ve been there for a month and they’ve got just a little little coat have you been in the hospital yes right we when they’re fighting these mobile that was the preferred place they are casualties and all here walking coma the American Hospital what people love you and they there with a number one place Tunisian people there on each side and there a couple times if Mohammed there and he’s like Oh did Jesus play that when he was old up so well I want to thank Congressman Wolf and debut back I must tell you that their presentations and let us say their characters makes a lot of sense of what an Iraqi said as the American troops began leaving and an Iraqi was said well now that the American troops are leaving what do you think of them and his response was you’re better than your movies that’s because they met people like big your bank and of course Congressman Wolf because what they see there that they don’t see in the movies is the finest character of America in our country god bless you both thank you. Thank you all for coming.